We have been developing web applications using PLSQL Web Toolkit. Now we are looking at alternatives--Oracle APEX and Formspider.

  1. For our application we use our enterprise authentication (Shibboleth) and custom authorization (stored in tables and accessed via PLSQL APIs). I know APEX allows plug-in authentication schemas. Does Formspider also allow the same?
  2. APEX needs its framework to deploy the application. Is this the same in Formspider or can you embed it in existing application (for e.g. interactive grids into an existing application. I realize that we could use available javascript libraries for this).

asked 23 Mar '14, 17:20

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Hi Sanjeev,

Here are the answers to your questions:

1) Yes. If you take a look at how the security is implemented in the Formspider reference applications, you'll see that it uses a custom authorisation repository. You can download the reference application from here.

2) I would not recommend embedding Formspider screens into another application.

Hope this helps.

Kind Regard,s
Yalim

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answered 24 Mar '14, 02:43

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I also strongly recommend you to try make use of the Formspider authentication and authorization repository instead of a custom one. Since it is an integrated repository, it'll save you from a lot of coding.

(24 Mar '14, 05:50) Yalim Gerger ♦♦

Thanks for your quick response.

  1. For user authentication we have to use our central IT's authentication mechanism. From your response I am going to assume that Formspider will not restrict us from using our own user authentication.
  2. Does this mean that Formspider has its own runtime engine that is needed or is it that it will take a lot of work to integrate it into existing application. We intend to leverage as much of the built-ins, but it will be difficult to convince developers to throw out all their existing code to get started with Formspider.
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answered 24 Mar '14, 14:47

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  1. Correct. You can use your own mechanism. No problem at all. Just look at the reference application. I understand you must use the central IT's mechanism. But maybe you can find a way to migrate, sync, bridge the two. This way you may save yourselves a lot of work because Formspider authorization enables you restrict access declaratively.

  2. Formspider does not have its own run-time client side engine like Flash. Formspider client code is 100% JavaScript. Yes it may take work to integrate it into an existing application. And you may need our help.

By the way, the other option is also possible in which you can integrate non-Formspider screens into Formspider. That's relatively easier. There is some built-in support for that depending on what you want to do.

So I guess my point about merging Formspider with 3rd party screens is that this is something that needs to be evaluated on a case by case basis.

(25 Mar '14, 05:45) Yalim Gerger ♦♦
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